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  • Bernadette

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    February 1, 2023 at 7:38 am

     I personally have not encountered clients with this rare disease. However I have come across this pattern in the OAT test many times with clients who have yeast overgrowth and/or exposure to mold, which produce oxalates. Hence my recommendation to get an ERMI test to see if there are high levels of mycotoxins in your home.

    High uric acid is often in the picture as well since it’s an antioxidant and the body can increase production to counter high oxidative stress from elevated blood sugar, stress, and toxicity. Another pattern to check is your lipids. If there’s elevated HDL and suppressed LDL, that’s another sign of oxidative stress. Again – mold can do that. So can high blood sugar from stress/diet.

    Also keep in mind that this OAT test was performed a year ago and you’ve made significant changes since then so we cannot draw any conclusions from it.

  • naslam1603

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    February 1, 2023 at 8:49 am

     good morning

    Yes, I am surprised about my GP result as nothing appears to be going right my way at the moment. I still feel the same. 

    You’ll receive updated blood panel from functional dx very soon as I did the blood withdrawal last Thursday I think.

    Separate to this, should I repeat  the OATS test?

    Regarding ERMI test, this is the WhatsApp response I’ve just received from Andy Habbershaw :-

    Ermi is a dna test for mould species from which a score can be calculated. It does not test for mycotoxins – rather it tests for toxigenic species. If you want to know what mycotoxind are present you need an environment mycotoxin test. We can do both testz

  • Bernadette

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    February 1, 2023 at 1:16 pm

    that’s a great response from the mold inspector. It’s always a red flag when they don’t know or haven’t heard of the ERMI test before. It’s worth spending your money there.

    As I had mentioned to you on the case study call, I would not recommend any other tests at the moment beyond what I had suggested.

    You only test when it’s to inform a different direction. Like if there’s high mold, then remediation is the next step. If testing is to confirm an educated assumption, it’s a waste of your money. But of course you know what’s best for you.

  • naslam1603

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    February 1, 2023 at 1:26 pm

     Sorry, does this mean to go ahead. He can do the test which you mention. Right now, I can’t think straight. 

  • Bernadette

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    February 1, 2023 at 2:04 pm

     yes, correct go ahead. They can run the MSQ PCR and more it seems. 

  • naslam1603

    Member
    February 1, 2023 at 2:39 pm

     Thank you

  • Daniel

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    February 1, 2023 at 10:39 pm

    Hey ,

    Since Hyperoxaluria Type I (PH1) is a genetic condition, did you experience symptoms like kidney stones during your life? The majority of individuals with PH1 symptoms are present in childhood or early adolescence.

  • naslam1603

    Member
    February 1, 2023 at 11:19 pm

     hey buddy. No kidney stones symptoms at all during my lifetime. I might be going down the wrong path. 

  • Daniel

    Member
    February 1, 2023 at 11:33 pm

     You are at the right path, but exploring all options (especially if they are mentioned in the result explanations of your OAT) isn’t a bad thing. Typically with genetic diseases showing up on the OAT, the OAT markers will be much more elevated. Most of the genetic diseases mentioned in the OAT explanations are also very rare and leave traces of symptoms during your life.

    Your oxalate markers are elevated, but… Slightly. Not that it shouldn’t be addressed, but there are much higher oxalate elevations possible as well.

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