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Joint shoulder pain
Hi I have bean suffering with joint shoulder pain for almost a year now . I am doing pilates but I wonder if there is something am missing.woukd collagen help ? If so which brand ? Am 42 15 months postpartum ,
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@Yasmin atassi I have several questions please.
Did the shoulder pain occur randomly without cause, or did you injure it by any chance, or was it overused (e.g. doing overhead weighted exercises that can pinch the shoulder?).
Have you seen a doctor or physical therapist for an assessment? If so, what was there diagnosis?
In addition to structural issues, there can be several other different root cause reasons for joint pain, as listed in this handout in the Symptom Dictionary. To help you figure that out, I’ll need more information from you, so please also answer the following questions about each possible factor:
Gut dysbiosis (imbalance in the normal gut microbes and/or overgrowths). 3) Do you experience any GI symptoms like gas, bloating, loose stools, constipation, irritable bowel, belching, heartburn, indigestion, etc?
Persistent viral infection 4) Do you have recent or previous blood work – a CBC specifically that shows your red and white blood cells (RBC and WBC with differentials – neutrophils, lymphocytes, monocytes, eosinophils, basophils)? If so, please share it.
Food sensitivities, especially dairy, gluten & nightshade vegetables 5) Have you ever tried an elimination diet? If so, which foods did you eliminate and for how long?
Histamine overload due to low DAO enzyme synthesis (B6 is important for this). 6) Do you experience any other symptoms of histamine intolerance?
Low cortisol from chronic stress 7) Would you say chronic stress may be a factor in your case?
Toxicity (heavy metals, mold & mycotoxins, pesticides, etc) 8) Do you believe you’ve been exposed to toxins from the environment? For example, amalgam fillings in the mouth. High fish consumption. Exposure to lead paint, cigarette smoke, mold, non-organic diet. Read this handout and this handout for more common toxic exposures.
Insufficient protein intake and/or low stomach acid (poor digestion & absorption) 9) do you consume enough protein, and specifically animal protein sources? If so, consider doing the baking soda challenge test (as shown at the 3-minute mark HERE). Let us know your results.
Nutrient insufficiencies: B6, B12, vitamin C, omega-3, 6, 9, magnesium 10) Do you consume enough red and orange colored fruits/veggies daily or take vitamin C? Do you consume fish or take Omega supplements? Do you have these signs of magnesium insufficiency or supplement with magnesium?
I’ve numbered my questions to make it easier for you to reply to each one separately. I’ll wait to hear from you.
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Hello B , bellow you can find my answers . I also forgot to mention that I breastfed exclusively for 15 months and that I had a lot of supply. I wonder if that is related ? I also wonder if it reacted to age as I have heard that women start getting osteoporosis issues at this age . So many of my friends are aching as well but mine is really really difficult . If I make a simple move to grab something I sometime I get a sharp shooting pain all the way from my shoulders.ً I really feed rigid if that makes any sense
Did the shoulder pain occur randomly without cause, or did you injure it by any chance, or was it overused (e.g. doing overhead weighted exercises that can pinch the shoulder?).
It started randomly however I was exclusively working pumping for 15 months so I Woder if that is related ? This severe discomfort and pain has been since last may at least. I have learnt to live with it but I don’t think it’s normal
Have you seen a doctor or physical therapist for an assessment? If so, what was there diagnosis?
I tried a few sessions of physio last year .but honestly it was useless . No one took a picture or anything but they said it was like tendinitis maybe
In addition to structural issues, there can be several other different root cause reasons for joint pain, as listed in this handout in the Symptom Dictionary. To help you figure that out, I’ll need more information from you, so please also answer the following questions about each possible factor:
Gut dysbiosis (imbalance in the normal gut microbes and/or overgrowths). 3) Do you experience any GI symptoms like gas, bloating, loose stools, constipation, irritable bowel, belching, heartburn, indigestion, etc?
No I don’t know and my last still test was as in November and everything looked pretty good
Persistent viral infection 4) Do you have recent or previous blood work – a CBC specifically that shows your red and white blood cells (RBC and WBC with differentials – neutrophils, lymphocytes, monocytes, eosinophils, basophils)? If so, please share it.
I don’t think so but let me check and see
Food sensitivities, especially dairy, gluten & nightshade vegetables 5) Have you ever tried an elimination diet? If so, which foods did you eliminate and for how long?
No
Histamine overload due to low DAO enzyme synthesis (B6 is important for this). 6) Do you experience any other symptoms of histamine intolerance?
Such as ?
Low cortisol from chronic stress 7) Would you say chronic stress may be a factor in your case?
Definitely yes , I wouod say I def suffer from chronic stress
Toxicity (heavy metals, mold & mycotoxins, pesticides, etc) 8) Do you believe you’ve been exposed to toxins from the environment? For example, amalgam fillings in the mouth. High fish consumption. Exposure to lead paint, cigarette smoke, mold, non-organic diet. Read this handout and this handout for more common toxic exposures.
I was diagnosed with mold in January and going though a detox now . A few years ago I went through chelation for Mercury but that was quiet a few years back
Insufficient protein intake and/or low stomach acid (poor digestion & absorption) 9) do you consume enough protein, and specifically animal protein sources? If so, consider doing the baking soda challenge test (as shown at the 3-minute mark HERE). Let us know your results.
I think I can def add more protein yes . I ca use some help in that dept if you can guide how I can add more
Nutrient insufficiencies: B6, B12, vitamin C, omega-3, 6, 9, magnesium 10) Do you consume enough red and orange colored fruits/veggies daily or take vitamin C? Do you consume fish or take Omega supplements? Do you have these signs of magnesium insufficiency or supplement with magnesium?
I take omega vita c and magneuim Among other things . Am not very consistent with mag
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@Yasmin atassi there is a chance that it’s structural/muscular from what you’ve explained about breastfeeding.
Did you deliver naturally or by c-section? If you have any scars, seeing a myofascial release specialist can help.
Have you been to see an osteopath by any chance? They manipulate both the muscle and adjust bones as necessary, unlike physio which only focuses on muscles.
If you live in Dubai, I can make a few recommendations who to go see.
Regarding the points in your reply:
#3. which test are you referring to? Can you please share the results? As you know, “normal” does not always mean optimal from a functional lens.
#6. The words in bold are hyperlinked. Click that to see the symptoms.
#9. You can watch my VPF principle HERE on how to make balanced meals, along with examples of different proteins. I would then encourage you to watch THIS VIDEO for more examples.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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