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Supplements
I got this protocol after I got my results from the Htma test. I think it was just a generic protocol for people with my result I’m guessing but I’m looking at the ingredients and some ingredients are repeating .not sure if that’s ok or it’s too much of one thing. In all on the protocol I’m taking about 30 daily and wanted to drop some but probably replace with something else. I was toxic to b6 last year but my levels went down so I’m not sure if I’m getting the right b6,I forgot the name of it that’s your body can convert?
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@Rhondine sorrell yes, it does seem a bit of an overkill to have 3 different formulas of multi-vit/min supplements. It could be ok but it all depends on the dosage they’ve recommended for you, and how many of each you’re actually taking.
The absorbable form of B6 you’re referring to is called pyridoxal-5-phosphate. The form that many people cannot convert properly into the absorbable form is called pyridoxine, which is the form in these supplements.
And this is the perfect example of how someone can have high levels of B6 when measured in the blood, but actually be low in B6 in the cells. What’s in the blood does not reflect what we absorb into the cells where it counts!
So if this has happened to you in the past, it would be a good idea to make sure B6 is in the P5P form. Too much B6 in the pyridoxine form can also lead to nerve impairment / neuropathy and tingling.
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3 times a day. The ones that can’t be converted is in this? Thank you. Is there a recommended multivitamin? Yeah I take it 3 times daily.
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@Rhondine sorrell how long are they asking you to be taking these for?
I took a closer look at all the supplements and calculated the totals of what could cause issues in high doses. I summarized it below for you:
Paramin 3 x per day is providing:
400 IU vit D (I converted it)
600mg calcium
Selenium 2 x per day:
200mcg
Megpan 3 x per day is providing:
30mg B6 (pyridoxine form)
150mcg selenium
345 mcg iodine
150 IU vit D
1,635 IU vit A
600 mg vit C
Endodren 3 x per day is providing:
300mg vit C
300mg vit B5 (that’s a therapeutic dose)
Renamide 3 x per day is providing:
360mg vit C
Lincomin 3 x per day is providing:
1,227 IU vit A
150mg vit C
Total nutrients being consumed from supplements:
Vit D – 550 IU – this is not a high amount but I noticed they also recommended a separate vitamin D supplement which you did not show me. What is the dosage they’re recommending? This vitamin D handout can help you understand recommended dosages better.
Calcium – 600mg – I’m always wary of recommending calcium supplementation especially if there’s ongoing inflammation as it can lead to calcification of soft tissue. It’s a good idea to check your sCRP level. I usually reserve calcium supplementation to pregnant women and those with osteoporosis, and it’s important to have the right cofactors. Vitamin K2 is one of those cofactors to ensure calcium is going into bones and not soft tissue. You are not being given K2 in any of the supplements so perhaps the discussion about calcium is something to discuss with your practitioner. You can learn more about calcium imbalances, testing, cofactors, and how to correct calcium imbalances starting with this video HERE from the Mineral Balance course (there’s 4 videos to watch). You can also watch THIS VIDEO to understand the interpretation of calcium marker that’s measured in blood as part of the electrolyte panel.
Selenium – 350mcg – in general, 200mcg per day is what’s recommended to correct a deficiency. So this is a little on the higher end, so a discussion about the duration and when to stop should be in place with your practitioner.
Vitamin A – 2,862 IU – since this is a fat soluble vitamin, I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t excessive as it can accumulate in the body and also affect vitamin D. This is not an excessive amount.
Vitamin C – 1,410mg – this is a water soluble vitamin so excess will be removed in urine. No issues here.
Vitamin B6 – 30mg – firstly, it’s in the pyridoxine form which needs to be converted to P5P. Second, for someone who has a strong need for vitamin B6, this dose could get their detoxification going too quickly and they may experience Herx symptoms as a result. But it’s not a high dose.
Iodine – 345mcg – 200-300mcg per day is usually what’s recommended to correct an iodine deficiency. So again, it’s on the higher end so a discussion about duration is important. Also, this is the total from the supplement images you shared with me. The protocol they gave you also has additional kelp, so this may be overdoing it. Please have that discussion with your practitioner as well.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you so much ,it helps. The vitamin D is 125 mcg . No k2 in this vitamin and the kelp is 600mg kelp extract and 0.6mg of iodine.
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@Rhondine sorrell 125mcg is 5000 IU vitamin D, so definitely make sure you retest after 3 months or so.
And 0.6mg of iodine is another 600mcg to your already 345mcg. That’s more than double what’s usually recommended. Worth having a discussion with your practitioner about that. If it’s for a short duration, might be ok.
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I think I am definitely experiencing herxing ,you’re so smart I knew something didn’t feel right and it’s clicking . It’s herxing for sure ,wow. Thank you for highlighting that. So appreciated. I started taking the supplements n instantly felt sick ,I wasn’t sure which one was causing it . I’m not sure how long I’m supposed to be on it but the person that did the test got the recommendation from the lab so it wasn’t really customized for me per say but to the result that I had. I wasn’t feeling as bad before the supplement as in herxing but after taking them all 3 times daily going on 3 weeks now I’m definitely having herxing reaction . All makes sense. I guess I do need to stick to food for a while but no appetite at all but I’m still trying to force myself to eat. I know I’m low in the minerals so I just wanted something to help bring that level up incase I’m not getting enough from food.
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@Bernadette Abraham thank you , I will retest in 3 months yeah.
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@Rhondine sorrell always go low and slow with supplements. And always introduce 1 new supplement at a time and wait at least 3 days before introducing a new supplement to 1- give your body time to adjust and 2- give you time to assess if it’s causing any issues so you can adjust it accordingly.
For example, anything with B vitamins. I usually tell my clients to take 1 with food and wait for 2 days. If symptom-free, add another capsule for another 2 days and wait again. Then full dose. Some clients need to take it even slower than that. They’ll even open up a capsule at first and just sprinkle a little bit over food and close the capsule. See how they feel with that. And slowly, gradually increase the dose of B’s over time.
You can consider stopping everything to allow your body to “reset” and then resume low and slow to help you identify what is and isn’t working for you from those supplements. Your body knows best!
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@Bernadette Abraham Makes so much sense,you are extremely smart . I appreciate it. I went straight in as soon as I got them and was knocked down lol. It was very bad . I will slowly start with 1 . Thank you
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