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  • Hey,Which one is the Vitamin A recommended in your medicine cabinet in this protocol?

    Posted by natkhoury20 on May 17, 2024 at 3:32 pm

    Hey,

    1. Which one is the Vitamin A recommended in your medicine cabinet in this protocol? + What do you think of elderberry drops to help fight fever in children?
    2. I got a reading of vitamin B at 1147.00 (vs 581 in July last year) – 1) do you find the increase weird? (I didn’t take any vitamin B supplements) 2) is it too high and do i need to do anything about it?
    Bernadette replied 5 months, 4 weeks ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Daniel

    Member
    May 17, 2024 at 9:37 pm

    Hey @Nathalie Khoury,

    I often recommend to my clients a mix of Vitamin A Palmitate (this is the form of vitamin A found in animal foods like liver, eggs and cheese) and Beta Carotene (this is a precursor of vitamin A found in plants). This supplement from Klaire Labs is a liquid form that you could try.

    The benefit of animal-based vitamin A is that it’s ready to use by the body. Beta carotene needs to be converted and due to genetics, not everyone is equally good at that.

    Elderberry drops have some (limited) research backing up that they can ease fever symptoms in children. The benefits seem to be the greatest when started within 24 to 48 hours after the symptoms begin. You could try and see if it benefits your child.

    The second part of your question is not easy to answer. I like my clients to be higher in the reference range when it comes to vitamin B12 (above 600 ng/ml). This video dives deeper into details about measuring vitamin B12. I think you will find it interesting.

    High levels of vitamin B12 like yours I haven’t seen without the use of supplements though. I do think it is important that you find out what would cause these high levels. It can be as simple as changing your food pattern. Check the labels of your foods as well. Perhaps some of the foods you are consuming contain a hidden source of vitamin B12.

    Vitamin B12 is stored in the liver. In some cases, it can happen that the cells of the liver get damaged and vitamin B12 is spilt in the blood. This can also cause elevations in serum levels. It is less likely, but it happens. If you are experiencing symptoms, ask your doctor if he can rule out liver problems.

    Another possibility is the units in your labs. You mentioned 2 different values. Do they have the same units? Sometimes serum B12 is measured in ng/ml and sometimes B12 is measured in pmol/l. Those numbers cannot be compared 1 on 1. Although your B12 went up, without units it’s hard to understand how much the elevations exactly are.

    I hope this answer provides you with some clarity!

  • natkhoury20

    Member
    May 18, 2024 at 5:55 am

    Vitamin A – thank you for the recommendation! Is it suitable for children as well? (1.5 & 3.5yrs old)

    B12 is measured in pg/ml (both years). I’m also attaching here the liver markers that were tested. I can send you the full report so you get the full picture if that’s better (let me know where would be the best place to send this).

  • Daniel

    Member
    May 20, 2024 at 12:09 am

    Hey @Nathalie Khoury,

    Full reports will always give us more detailed information.

    Personally, when it comes to children, I like to work with food-based options as much as possible. In the library of B Better, you can also find a supplement protocol for children. Just click here!

  • natkhoury20

    Member
    May 20, 2024 at 6:12 am

    Yes that’s the one I looked at & was referring to when asking for vitamin A for children.

    I’ll send you my full report in PM.

  • Bernadette

    Member
    May 20, 2024 at 12:26 pm

    @Nathalie Khoury yes, I give that vitamin A by Biotics Research to my kids. Seeking Health also has this liquid vitamin A.

  • natkhoury20

    Member
    May 20, 2024 at 5:30 pm

    The seeking health one can also be given to kids? @Bernadette Abraham

  • Bernadette

    Member
    May 21, 2024 at 2:19 am

    @Nathalie Khoury yes, no issues. Just have to change the dosing according to their age/weight. I use the following rules:

    Fried’s Rule – for children less than 2 years old:

    The dose of an herb is obtained by multiplying the child’s age in months by the adult dose and then dividing the result by 150. An example would be if an adult tincture dosage is 20 drops. For an 8 month old child you would take 20 x 8 to get 160. Then divide: 160/150 = which would be approximately 1 drop of tincture.

    Clark’s Rule – for children aged 2-17:

    Take the child’s weight in pounds and divide by 150 pounds. Multiply the fractional result by the adult dose to find the equivalent child dosage. For example, if an adult dose of tincture calls for 30 drops and the child weighs 30 pounds, divide the child’s weight by 150 (30/150) to get 1/5. Multiply 1/5 times 30 drops to get 6 drops.

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