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    Posted by sheetalramchandani1 on October 2, 2022 at 2:43 pm
    Hello B
    I am 47 years old , last year my doctor had run some test and found a few fibroids ( Nov 2021 ) this year ( sep2022) the fibroid has increased from a size 4cm to 7.6cm and few small ones also detected , thus she has suggested the removal of my uterus .
    My concerns are
    1. How important is it ?
    2. Side effects after removal , like hormones and weight , how will they be impacted
    3. Something I can do prior to surgery

    To add my blood work reports are fairly ok and my menopause stage has just started ( little ruse in FSH )

    Sheetal

    Bernadette replied 1 year, 5 months ago 3 Members · 22 Replies
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  • Bernadette

    Member
    October 3, 2022 at 5:00 am

     – can you help me better understand your doctor’s reasoning please. Other than the size increase and new development of fibroids, what is the doctor’s reasoning for the surgery? Are you very symptomatic?

    If you’re not already aware, estrogen dominance can lead to fibroids. Have you tried addressing the possible root cases? Have you seen this “Fibroids” symptom sheet in the Symptom Dictionary yet to see the possible root causes?

    Also, have you watched Dr. Carrie Jones’ presentation on estrogen dominance in the “All Call Recordings”? She touched on fibroids as well.

    Please let me know.

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    October 3, 2022 at 7:28 am

    , according to the doctor that , since they are increasing at a faster rate they will continue to increase and cause trouble in sometime and it may be a harder surgery then ( if possible I can send the reports for you to view ) also blood tests have been done to check that these fibroids are not dangerous . ( non cancerous )
    I have checked the fibroids document on the membership ( however can’t download it )
    I have no symptoms though ( these tests are done every year for me thus I have known about my fibroids otherwise there are no symptoms that I am facing )
    Ideally the diet n lifestyle recommendations mentioned in the document I generally follow 80% of it except for introducing black cohost n chaste berry ( let me know if I shud start ) or magnesium too I haven’t done
    Supplements I generally do liquids only as swallowing is not possible for me , haven’t found the above in liquid format

    I will watch the video on the call recordings too

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    October 3, 2022 at 8:39 am

    Since I live in Dubai , I am happy to come in for a 1:1 consultation to understand further

  • Bernadette

    Member
    October 4, 2022 at 5:47 am

     fibroids don’t usually increase in size for no reason, so addressing the root cause will help prevent any future growth, and fortunately you’re asymptomatic.

    From the symptom dictionary fact sheet on fibroids, you can see that there are many possible root causes. Which ones from this list have you explored?

    -Relative estrogen surplus (i.e. estrogen dominance). Have you tested your estradiol and progesterone levels during day 19-21 of your cycle?

    -Elevated insulin leading to androgen dominance, low progesterone & estrogen dominance. Have you tested your blood sugar levels, and more specifically fasting insulin? How about testosterone, DHEA and cortisol?

    -Poor liver detox ability and hormone excretion (i.e. liver congestion, chronic constipation, caffeine consumption). Do you have a minimum once daily, well formed type 3-4 bowel movement on the Bristol stool chart? Do you live a fairly “low tox” lifestyle to your knowledge? Do you consume alcohol or a lot of caffeine? 
     
    -Thyroid hypofunction. Has a full thyroid panel been tested? TSH, Total T4, Total T3, Free T4, Free T3, anti-TPO, anti-TG, reverse T3?

    -Gut dysbiosis. Do you have any GI symptoms like gas and bloating that would indicate some dysbiosis or overgrowths?
     
    -Iodine insufficiency or deficiency. Do you get breast tenderness or swelling? Do you have symptoms of low thyroid function? Constipation, low energy, hair loss, brittle nails, dry skin, heavy periods/PMS, intolerance to cold, can’t lose weight, etc.? 

    -Insufficient liver detox nutrients: magnesium, B vitamins, amino acid proteins. Do you eat animal proteins? Have you ever been on hormonal birth control? Do you get headaches, muscle spams, crave chocolate, or other symptoms of low magnesium?

    If you can help answer these questions, I can continue guiding you to address the root cause, and hopefully not need invasive surgery.

  • Bernadette

    Member
    October 4, 2022 at 6:25 am

     unfortunately, I’m fully booked. You can add your name to my waiting list here if you’re still interested.

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    October 4, 2022 at 9:15 am

    Thank you B , loving the attention to detail and your support on this
    FSH – 14
    TSH – 1.3
    Prolactin – 25
    Estradiol and progesterone ( not checked ) ( I can do that on day 19)
    Fasting insulin I haven’t ,
    Cortisol – not done
    DHEA – not done –
    Testosterone – not done

    No constipation at all ( once daily type 4 , first thing at wake up )

    Alcohol-1 or 2 times per week ( 1 or 2 glazes wine )
    Coffee ) 1 cup only Sunday and Thursday

    Thyroid panel – TSH shared above
    Rest not done

    No gas no bloating
    No breast tenderness or pain
    No hair loss , low energy
    Brittle and East breaking nails have always been there
    No dry skin no insulation heavy periods ( like always ever since I have had periods, that is 5-6 days )
    Weight has been consistent for past few years ( fairly good , not over weight )

    Animal protein – fish n egg’s regularly
    I use b12 spray ( supplement ) regularly
    No magnesium supplements
    Never been on birth control
    No headaches
    No muscle spasm ( occasionally in the past )
    I do crave chocolate

    Let me know if I should do the other test and send you results , I have just completed my period so I can wait for day 19 and get it sorted
    Just share the list of things I need to do in lab work

    Apart from that I exercise regularly, eat clean most days ( 80/20 lifestyle ) , prioritize sleep and self care plays a good role in my life

    Let me know if you need further details

  • Daniel

    Member
    October 5, 2022 at 11:26 am

     

    Thank you for providing us with so many details! In addition, could you tell us when your FSH was measured in your period? Was it during the follicular phase, luteal phase (or ovulation?)

    When it comes to your questions on what labwork would provide us additional information:
    • The Dutch test is a test I would highly recommend. In particular, The DUTCH Plus (click here) can provide us insight in • If you are estrogen dominant (and if so, what type of dominance)
    • It provides us insight into how you breakdown estrogen
    • It will show us how your androgen levels are
    • It shows us your cortisol metabolism.

              How to prepare on The DUTCH complete you can find here.
    • A full thyroid panel which includes:• TSH, fT4, fT3
    • Anti-TPO & Anti-TG
    • Reverse T3
    • Fasting Insulin

    Did I read correctly that you were low on energy? Or did you mean you had no low energy symptoms? If you are low on energy:
    • Iron & Ferritin are important to check as well (could also cause brittle nails)
    • RBC Zinc (Low zinc status could cause low thyroid symptoms and brittle nails as well)
    • Vitamin D (which also helps with estrogen metabolism)

    Magnesium is needed to break down estrogen. Although you didn’t mention any other symptoms of magnesium deficiency (except for low energy) I like to be thorough. Other symptoms of magnesium deficiency are GERD, Stiffness of muscles, and feeling easily irritated. Are those symptoms you experience? If you want to be sure about your magnesium status then test also for
    • RBC Magnesium 

    Maybe  has some additional lab tests she likes, but these are my recommendations!
     

  • Bernadette

    Member
    November 17, 2022 at 5:53 am

    Hi  – just wanted to check in. How are you doing? Have you been able to implement some of the suggestions, watch videos or do the additional tests? Please let us know how we can further support you. ❤️

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    November 17, 2022 at 2:26 pm

    Hello B 
    Yes I did an MR1 and yet my doctor mentions it to remove it , I still have no symptoms and thus confused .I want a second opinion too this looking for good recommendations of gynaec ( let me know if you do ) . I have watched the videos and I do implementation of most of them regularly for a few years now . I am unable to pin point the root cause of the fibroids though . If there is a way to share reports let me know , I would appreciate your feedback n support . At the moment very confused about my next steps and not happy about removal of an organ 

  • Bernadette

    Member
    November 18, 2022 at 11:33 am

    Hi  – you can always attach your reports directly in the posts here for us to take a look at.

    As a next step, I would recommend getting the additional tests we’ve recommended above done. These would help us figure out the possible root cause(s), and then a course of action.

    Possible root causes:
    • Relative estrogen surplus (i.e. estrogen dominance) – test estrogen/progesterone during days 19-21 of your cycle
    • Elevated insulin – test fasting insulin, fasting glucose, HbA1C
    • Poor liver detox ability and hormone excretion – test a liver panel: ALT, AST, ALK Phos, GGT, Direct bilirubin, Total bilirubin, Protein, Albumin
    • Thyroid hypofunction – test TSH, Free T4, Free T3, Reverse T3, anti-TPO, anti-TG
    • Gut dysbiosis (a GI map would help, but since you don’t have apparent GI complaints, no need at this stage)
    • Iodine insufficiency or deficiency – here’s a video explaining how to test iodine
    • Insufficient liver detox nutrients: test RBC magnesium, vitamin B12 or MMA

    You live in India correct? If you can find a doctor to run these tests for you, that would be a great start. Otherwise, consider paying out of pocket (if finances allow) and getting them done directly through a walk-in lab.

    Please let me know if you have any questions.

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    March 31, 2023 at 1:40 pm

    Hello B
    This is regarding the course on mold ,,, I could not find the download the link for mold mediator in uAE and also the symptoms questionnaire to download . Can u help ?

  • Bernadette

    Member
    March 31, 2023 at 2:05 pm

     mold remediator info is below the video here.

    Mold symptom questionnaires are also there. You have to click on the file icon on the top right.

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    May 18, 2023 at 1:35 pm

    Hello B and Daniel
    Further investigations on my fibroids
    Attached are my reports ( Dr Skroski at health bay clinic Dubai )
    As per the reports , pregnenlone is low ( 28.5 and reference range is 33 to 120 ) therefore Doctor has suggested the following
    1. Bio identical therapy medication
    2. Evening promise and Vitex chaste berry ( as progesterone is low too and has dropped from 10 to 0.2 )
    3. Added Duphaston from day 10 to day 25 of cycle

    Apart from above
    Iodine levels , insulin markers , HBA1C , thyroid panel , estrogen all are within range n not of concern

    As per symptoms I have absolutely no symptoms of low energy , bleeding etc involved around fibroids
    No gut Dubois too

    The only thing I did experience in the past few months is a skipped period

    Let me know what think of the current results n previous records sent over the past few months
    What are the root causes ?
    What I can do differently?
    Any supplements apart from what the doctor has suggested should be added ?
    [H__Documents_176263_9c327d7e-643a-4770-8299-91b48c532550.pdf2433720.pdf]

  • Bernadette

    Member
    May 18, 2023 at 2:22 pm

    

    Pregnenolone is often referred to as the “master” or “mother” hormone. This is a diagram I frequently use to explain some of the most important elements of the stress and sex hormone cascade.  As you can see, pregnenolone in the top left is the first hormone stepping stone to be produced from cholesterol in the steroid cascade.  The body then decides how much pregnenolone it wishes to retain and how much of other downstream hormones it wishes to synthesize and retain.  The amount of enzymes we retain to catalyze the conversion of one hormone to another is determined by many factors e.g. stress, diet, immune system status, inflammation, other hormone levels, genetics.  And of course, all of the hormones affect each other too (ex. higher insulin drives higher testosterone production in women, a common dynamic in PCOS).
    Here’s my most important guidance.  If a person’s pregnenolone is low, make sure to address the true root causes first.  Keep in mind (as in the diagram above) that cholesterol is the precursor of pregnenolone, and the body will supply cholesterol for this purpose via LDL coming from the liver (either from diet or made in the liver itself).  If a person’s LDL level is too low (ex. <70 mg/dl), this may simply provide the insufficient raw material for the body to make adequate pregnenolone. Have you ever measured your lipids before to rule this out?

    It's common in those using statin drugs.  It may also happen more readily to those who do not consume dietary cholesterol (ex. vegans) and who are thus fully dependent on the liver to produce adequate cholesterol (which it should optimally do, but we know that's not always the case). 

    If LDL is too low (in the absence of medication specifically causing it), I would consider boosting it with clean, dietary sources such as organic and grass-fed butter or ghee and/or free-range eggs.  Fattier cuts of beef are also a good option, though eggs and butter/ghee will have higher content and are usually easier to find from high-quality sources.
    It's also important to realize that ongoing stress demands that can cause a "stress steal" can also deplete pregnenolone (often as well as progesterone and DHEA actually). More specifically, this HPATG axis modulation on purpose to support sympathetic nervous sytem response and the need to survive will lead to this specific hormone pathway choice.  The body is prioritizing all of the hormonal cascade "fodder" to respond to stress, and there is not much left for producing sex hormones or keeping a responsive "reservoir" of adequate pregnenolone either. 

    This is why adrenal health is one of the foundational courses I've created. It's critical to address sources of chronic stress which can be mental/emotional in origin (ex. trauma, crisis) or physiological (ex. toxicity, unaddressed food sensitivities, simmering ongoing infection, especially in the gut), or physical (ex. over-exercising, undersleeping, undereating, etc). Would you say stress might be at play in your case? Have you ever measured cortisol levels with a functional test like the DUTCH Adrenal test?

    Addressing the root cause of why the hormone cascade has become depleted is key. Certainly there are times when it makes sense to do both (work on root cause and supplement) because a person is so depleted and needs relief. 

    Just keep in mind that supplemental use of any hormone is very likely to suppress the body's own production of that hormone.  Over time, steady, higher levels of any hormone from supplementation are also likely to cause the body to develop reduced hormone receptor sensitivity.  This is why an initial dose that seems to work so well often eventually becomes ineffective and needs an increase.
    The challenge with using pregnenelone as a supplemental hormone is that you cannot control what the body is going to use it to make downstream.  For example, if adrenal hormones like cortisol are low yet estrogen is high, then simply supplementing with prenenelone is more likely to boost the estrogen further than to boost cortisol because that's what the body is already preferring to do at that point in time.  
    It can be valuable as a supplemental hormone when its level is low AND when downstream hormones below are all consistently suboptimal. It's also important (as with all other hormones) to check the level of all hormones no more than ~3 months after initiation to ensure a good balance has been achieved and that the dosage is optimal.  This is a well-written summary (with research links embedded) of some of the benefits of pregnenolone supplementation.

    Now regarding your thyroid... FT3 is suboptimal. Thyroid conversion happens primarily in the liver. Have you measured a liver panel in the past? Thyroid conversion also needs nutrients; iron, vitamin A, zinc, selenium. Here's a video on reasons for low FT3 and foods that support thyroid function.

    Given the fact that your progesterone is low relative to estrogen, this is what is considered estrogen dominance, and a possible root cause for fibroids. With the natural aging process, women reaching perimenopausal years do not ovulate as often and do not produce as much progesterone. So supplementing with bio-identical progesterone, taking vitex etc. should help in that regard.

    I hope this helps answer your questions and gives you a few additional areas to explore... 

  • sheetalramchandani1

    Member
    May 18, 2023 at 3:38 pm

    Thank you B again for a detailed explanation and fantastic support
    Here are a the answers to every question asked above
    1. My LDL is 70 ( ghee n eggs are a part of my daily diet n beef I don’t eat for religious reasons ,,, if any other foods may help , let me know )
    2. I am on no medication or statins ( touch wood no health concerns so far , however I am 48 so definitely high FSH n in perimenopause phase )
    3. As per stress I use to over excessive but since the past two years it has become minimal ( 4 days a week , lower forms of strength training )
    4. Not done a Dutch test but would love to know more about it and the process of getting it done
    5. As per hormone supplement I haven’t started it yet , I am looking for your advice in this matter , do u recommend even a low dosage if yes then how should the range be ? I do not want complications later this I am depending on you for advice and support ( also my level is 28.5 just 1.5 below the range value this would supplementation be really necessary )
    6. What specifics should I send you in liver panel ? Would ditch cover the answers to FT3

    Please support me with natural ways rather than having complicated systems later . Since I have a healthy lifestyle I do not have any sympathy at all
    So at the moment I am taking
    Duphaston ( day 10 to 25 , what about this pill ? )
    Supplements that are on ( evening primrose , Vitex berry , probiotics , zinc , d3 + K2 , b12 spray ,,, let. W know what you think of this panel ? )
    Awaiting your reply n support

    Regards,
    Sheetal

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